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[Lady LaSalle]

Ok, I have permission to post like 5 or so pictures so here you go! This is the VBS that I just think is so cute!

[Lady LaSalle]

Here's another one...............

[Lady LaSalle]

This is number 3........................

[Lady LaSalle]

And number 4.....................

[Lady LaSalle]

And number 5..........................

[Lady LaSalle]

Shhhhhhhh, don't tell--------number 6!

[Greeneyed Gypsy]

Wahoo...good stuff ~~ and hey I didnt even notice there were 6:re :w2

[More Ammo]

Thanks LL for posting the five pictures and a bonus. Thank you GG for letting LL post. On number 6, the dress on the right, is the drape an extra piece of fabric sewn into the side seam do you think? That VBS looks to have very large armhole openings. I guess they wore something under it?

[Kitty Phann]

MA, the plaid on the right in the bonus caught your eye too. I love it.

[More Ammo]

Kitty Phann, yes I like it very much. I tend to like the straighter, little plainer styles for myself. I love looking at the fancier, bustle, lacy dresses but I don't see myself in one, even if I could figure out how to make it.:18

[Kitty Phann]

That's me also plain and simple! or should I say "Classic"

[Lady LaSalle]

MA, I believe that "sash" piece is actually part of the skirt----kinda like a wrap around. It's hard to tell from the picture, and I am surely no expert. So expert (aka: Josie), what is your opinion?

[More Ammo]

LL, how do you think they gathered that up on the side. It almost looks like some material hanging tassel like. Any ideas on how you would do that? Doesn't that black shirt under the jacket/vest/top, almost look like a turtle neck type blouse? I guess you could make seperate shirt and jacket.

[Greeneyed Gypsy]

Hey MA...
we was just talking about that...
I think I would do a side and side front panel of the skirt in two so the regular skirt under and then the extra pieces on top sew in the normal seam with the under down the side then finished at top and bottom and drapped to the side in a sash look. I think the tassels are just that an applique or tassel feature to decorate the dress. Do you have the Demode link yet??? We need a sticky with "must have" cool dress site's too look at !!
http://demode.tweedlebop.com/realvict/

I think the bodice is either short fitted at the waist ala' 1860 style OR longer and tucked into the skirt which is a more popular look in the 90's and on after.

I would use the TV460 and a not too full 90's skirt to make this The french vested would work well adapted to this style fitted short to the waist and I think the small pleated detail at the back would be becomming in this style and the sleeves have the right ammount of poof!!

[Greeneyed Gypsy]

Oh and LL I am NOT an expert!:18 She just trie to get me to do all the work around here.....LMAO......Heheheheheeheh

Greeneyed ( love you...mean it!) Gypsy:33

[More Ammo]

Great site!!! Kitty Phann you have to look at this site. There are difinitely "Classic" styles we both tend toward. Thanks GG. Where would I get the applique/tassle, do you have any idea?

[More Ammo]

I just looked at my pattern and I have the TV 460! Yea! I have even made a top out of it and it fit great. But not sure about how to make it a vested look? I guess I would need to make it a one piece top and not two seperate pieces.

[Kitty Phann]

I would use the TV463, French Vest Bodice. I think you have a similar look there. But what would you use for the overskirt. I was think the 305 and modify the left side and not bustle the back.....course I'm not very good at this as I'm just start to venture into the more difficult dresses.

MA for the applique/tassle I would check out Cheaptrims/junklady1 on ebay.

[Greeneyed Gypsy]

Kitty I agree the french vested would be the simple straight forward one to use...if you want to use the 460 ( since you already have this one) cut out the complete bodice in the plaid...then use your contrast color for the collar and the v can be made by using the front pieces of the pattern again just trace onto tissue the the v shape you want...top stitch it neatly over the plaid on the outside and simply finish the center in hooks or buttons as you prefer. Often the vested styles you see were indeed one piece bodices or the jacket portion was only open to the side seam to give a movable illusion of two pieces. The v can also extend down the back a bit if you like this was often done in extant dresses.
I cant remember which is the 305?Sounds like a plan to me!!
Glad you liked the site there is also the NY digatal library...a WONDERFUL priceless resource...and a few good antique textile dealers like Karen Agusta and Whiticker Auction house who have treasures to view a few times a year.
I will grab and post links in the afternoon tomorrow...for now I am off to bed ...early morning with NASTY traffic for me...
GG

[Greeneyed Gypsy]

Will will NOT discuss LA traffic....Nasty Nasty stuff... I am finally Home Mom is safetly back to FL and I have a few promised links for you ladies, I know we post these all now and again but we have so many sweet new faces and I don't want anyone left out!
Some favorite places I like to visit...
http://digital.nypl.org/mmpco/
New York Library digital images...click browse then scroll down to costume, it is arranged by decade...hours of drool...bring snacks and take the phone OFF the hook!

C.A Whitcker auction house, some of the best extant garments around go up for sale here a few times a year...and they are good enough to post photos for all to enjoy!

http://www.valentinasgifts.com/jewelry/items/ej140.htm
recent find... I think there prices are well high...but they have a WONDERFUL collection of period jewlery really good for finishing touch inspiration...look here then scour Ebay for similar at rock bottom?

http://www.cheeptrims.com/
great place for massive yardage trims...which hello we use! The olive green 1870's dress? between 50-60 yards of ribbon in two widths...I have the reciepts and the sad little inch bits left over to prove it...and I WISH I had ordered from cheep trims!!

http://www.vintagesewing.info/1950s/52-hmh/hmh-017.html
This site has all sorts of sewing information...I think I found several types of plackets listed and explained here...this is hats...I am still perfecting a perfectly tailored placket:re What can I say I have odd issues. Anywho....a great how to information site I like!


http://www.antique-fashion.com/
Antique dealer...with beautiful things, check the archives for past glories that she has so kindly and wisely kept for viewing!

Ok well Its 1PM and we all know what that means....NAP TIME!
while you are all laughing at that just think what fun it will be later for Brownies and AWANA...

[Kitty Phann]

Thanks GG for the info. There were some sites that I didn't have so I will have to add them to my long list of favorites.

[More Ammo]

GG, thanks for all the sites. Understand what your talking about LA traffic. Went to the Gene Autry Museum first time we went to EOT and we left there right in front of the flash flood of traffic. Thank goodness I didn't have to drive.:18
What do you'll think of this. I have the TV221 Tie back underskirt.Make in black satin with the ruffle in a red/black plaid. The drape also in red/black plaid along with the top. Maybe red trimmings. Would this be too much! :confused:

[Garnet Rose]

More Ammo, It's hard to get to "too much" when it comes to Victorian dresses. On the Truly Victorian board, Heather always tells us to trim our trim, too.

[More Ammo]

Thank you Garnet Rose. Now all I have to do is find the material.:18