View Full Version : fire season is on!
07-10-2006, 10:20 AM
Now you folks back east, bear with me.
JUST WHAT IS IT ABOUT TEENAGERS OUT HERE????
The mountains are TINDER dry and the IDIOTS are shooting off ROMAN CANDLES! For Heaven's sake! WHAT ARE THEY THINKING????
There are two fires in the metro area on the mountain. One above the University of Utah and a second one in just south of Farmington Canyon.
Last week we had one lit campfire LEFT ALONE!
Now darnit! What does it take to get them to understand that high fire danger means that Roman Candles and unattended campfires are not a good idea????
Looks like the husband and I will be spending Sunday afternoons checking out campfire pits and watering them down again! I REALLY HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO (like shooting my new rifle) but I don't want to see the mountain go up.
Ahhhhh....now that I got that off my chest.
07-10-2006, 10:45 AM
DW, they seem to have their heads stuck in the wrong place. They don't think at all.............Buck:flame
07-10-2006, 11:36 AM
Down here in AZ they are closing the forests to everybody, except illegals unfortunately, and they are leaving lots of campfires burning....... Our firefighters have been all over for three months now and I have seen trucks from New Mexico in town helping our locals suppress fires. Fortunately the rains have started. A friend of Tim's was hiking the other afternoon and saw lightning hit a ponderosa, which started burning, then the rain came and put it out! Thank goodness! I saw a young woman throw a burning cigarette butt out the window last night, I wanted to chase her down and strangle her!
Where are these people's heads???:hmr :kbutt
07-10-2006, 12:02 PM
This is really a sore spot with me. A few years ago, we had a hellacious fire on the mountain (set by a homeless man who was pissed because they wouldn't keep him in JAIL!). I have asthma and it wreaked havoc with my breathing. We are now always ready to go in case it should occur again.
The kick about that fire was the following spring when the rains hit, the mountain came sliding down. The ground cover was just starting to grow back and it has burned again.
I'm willing to bet the homeowners in that area are now wondering what will happen next spring!
I live at the head of a canyon. We have another 'fireworks' holiday coming on July 24. These people go CRAZY then. This one is even bigger than the 4th. I always worry that these idiots will set the canyon up. They did it a few years ago and I ran across the street and started turning on my neighbor's sprinkers. The fire company got screwed up coming up our way and missed it by a block and had to turn around. High winds and fire move fast and those seconds could have meant disaster. Fortunately that day we had no wind.
Last night we had awful winds but they had the fire down to some hot spots by then. Thank God.
07-10-2006, 12:37 PM
I can relate. We live in the very dry mountains just outside of Boise and last night we took a family walk and on the way, I counted 5 cigarettes butts with their cherries still attached!!! So now I get to have in the back of my head what I want to grab when the evacuation call comes!!! My dresses, of course.....scrapbooks....oh yah, the kids.......
07-10-2006, 01:30 PM
I guess people just live too much out of reach of nature and natural processes nowadays. Even in the Land of Little Rain (which is most of the continent to the west of the Mississippi, so you'd think...), folks know, intellectually, about fire danger, but they've never seen how fast dry grass can catch. They see the blackened stretch by the highway, but they don't really get that that could have been their cigarette.
And some folks, without direct personal experience, will always think, "But that won't happen to me..."
07-10-2006, 02:35 PM
We had one absolutely HUGE fire a while back. It ran throughout the whole county! We were only minutes from bugging out ourselves. All the precious things were packed. Mom, son, dog, dog toy(she would have been lost without her bacon toy), patterns, jewelry, photos and a few things to wear. Many, many people lost their property, homes, cars AND lives! It was all started by some man who was "lost" and fired a flare in the forrest so he could be found. It was OCTOBER! FIRE SEASON all over California. He had lived in Orange County for quite a while. When all was said and done...A slap on the wrist.
In one community alone they lost about 40 houses! It went through the back country to the suburbs to the urban areas. By the time it was out one of our beautiful valleys was reduced to smoke and ashes. Many people were displaced. The reservation was burned beyond belief. So sad that some people don't use any common sense.
07-10-2006, 02:36 PM
And some folks, without direct personal experience, will always think, "But that won't happen to me..."
That is teenage thinking in a nut shell. I grew up near my high school on a busy street, in my graduating class alone, we had a kid hit and almost killed by a car walking to school and at least five accidents from careless kids making left turns in front of traffic. The worst part is that while I was in school three other underclassmen were hit by cars one fatally and I can't count how many car accidents. They don't learn by example, they think they're invicible or an exception. I mean what would it take to stop and let the speeding car go first instead of saying to yourself "I have the right of way, they'll stop." It doesn't surprise me that they don't think beyond their own hormones enough to care about the damage that may be caused by their fun. I hope and pray for those of you in fire country, that they grow up fast whithout incident!
07-10-2006, 03:32 PM
You are right, Miss Goldie. I think it is that INVINCIBILITY thing that they have in their minds. I never had any idea life could end when I was young. I never did anything foolish, luckily for me, but there were so many of my friends who did.
07-10-2006, 03:33 PM
Lioness, I remember that fire!
We shoot at a local rifle range. They have summer rules: no tracers. Novel concept in fire country, right? No brainer???
Well, there was a man there with no brains. He shot a tracer and the man who watches the range told him about it. OK, so he has a dense moment. But then he fires one a SECOND time.
Yep, started the mountain on fire. The range officer calls 911 and reports the incident. The idiot is packing his gear thinking he's going to get out. Real smart since he SIGNED the book that shooters are required to sign when shooting.
The RO pulls out his truck and blocked him in.
The police arrest the moron and you got it: slap on the wrists.
A ONE MILLION dollar fire and the idiot gets a teeny fine.
They also took all the steel gongs out after that. Husband was LIVID because he loved banging away at the 300 yard gong with an open sight mililtary surplus rifle.
GRRRRRRR!!!! (thanks for letting me vent.)
07-10-2006, 07:58 PM
Some people don't believe a cigarette will catch anything on fire. The "It only happens on TV" thing. Then they believe everything in a piece of fiction like "The DaVince Code", appologies to anyone who don't know its Fiction.
I've had some dumba$$ throw a lit butt into my car in traffic. Could not run down the SOB and I luckily was not armed. People just don't think or care where they throw butts.
Last year when Oklahoma had all the grass fires (I don't know if it made national news or not, but we had some really bad ones) I was talking to a volunteer fireman. He said they were in their fire truck and trying to get ahead of a fire and try to stop it at the next section line road. The fire was moving so fast they couldn't get ahead of it. It was outrunning the fire truck.
Often they would get a fire stopped at a section line, and here would come a tumbleweed. It would catch fire, jump the fences and start the next section of land on fire.
A whole lot of folks lost homes, and I heard of 100's of cattle being burned to death when they were trapped by fences. The little town of Ringling, OK was almost completely destroyed.
Most of the fires were in Western OK, but we had our fair share here in the SE corner.
07-17-2006, 09:52 PM
Whilst eating an early dinner at Robie Creek park and enjoying the cool, refreshing water, we were treated to quite the entertainment!!! Out of the east, we could hear the reverberations of helicopter blades. Upon looking up, out of the West, came a huge helicopter. And not just any helicopter. Oh no. A Sikorskee (sp) to be exact. (It is a GIGANTIC thing with a straw type thing that sucks water out of a lake into a GYNORMOUS tank!!) Then I look up to the north and what to my wondering eyes should appear? No, not a miniature sleigh and eight tiny reindeer. Brown, ugly, billowing smoke. IN MY MOUNTAINS!!!!!!!!!! We watched for about 45 minutes as the Sikorskee and a Huey (again with the spelling) sucked and dipped water out of the lake right there in front of us. Come to find out, the fire was right on Robie Creek road. (I know this bit of info means nothing to you.) However, it was just a little too close to home for my liking!!! Tomorrow, the boys and I are going to inspect the damage!
07-17-2006, 10:00 PM
Oh how scary that was for you! I pray that everything will be ok. When we lived in Ca afew years back the mountain that our subdivision was next to went up in flames and that was a scary feeling watching the big planes drop the flame retardant on. Be safe!
07-18-2006, 09:17 AM
A dear friend of mine was in the "line of fire" as we were writing this thread. She and her grown son (due to a recent accident he is in a wheel chair for a while) were just minutes from having to leave her home, horses, goats, and the like. Luckily, the FireHeroes got to it and kept it from her door. She cleared about 2 1/2 acres of her property so that the guys could turn around and have a place to congregate. The FireHeroes were having meetings in her front yard. I just heard from her yesterday and she said they were fine, but the fire was still visible. Thank the Great Spirit that they are SAFE! I ask him to keep watch on all of those involved.
07-18-2006, 09:24 AM
SV, glad you and the boys are safe. I'm sure they enjoyed the show, though. I understand the frustration you are all having as we went thru this when we lived in Florida. People just don't use their brains!!! :tap
07-18-2006, 12:32 PM
My uncle used to be a dispatcher for the firefighters around Boise. He spent many a day on the fires in that area. My cousin is an engineer for the Eage Fire Department. Refresh my memory please, where is Robie Creek??? Is that near Lucky Peak? I remember many a summer spent at Lucky Peak. Thank heavens you are all okay.
We have our share of fires going right now. I hope they calm down soon. It gets too scary around here. We have some good friends that work for the fire department and CDF and they, along with all the other firefighters everywhere, are always in our thoughts and prayers.
07-18-2006, 01:03 PM
I'm a bit nervous. It's been in the 100 degree plus range for 4 days. We haven't had rain in a couple weeks and it's been in the 90's. This weeked is the annual Pioneer (translated: I love to set the mountains on fire) day celebration.
We have seen something ominous though. For those of you who shoot out in the mountains (Forest Service and BLM allow this in areas), we are seeing fires started from shooting. I can see our free range go away soon if there's enough of this. We are guessing they are shooting jacketed ammo and hitting rocks. Real smart...real smart. Much education is needed there! I'm afraid the only education we'll see is, "Sorry, no shooting at all on Forest Service lands".
I'll be thrilled when "amateur weekend" is over. These people leave their campfires lit and shoot off fireworks. Oh joy.
We are taking friends on the mountain on Sunday (my daughter's boyfriend's parents) and I'll probably be packing water to douse some fires. I'll probably do it again on Monday (state holiday).
And on top of it, we could be looking at dry thunderstorms.
07-18-2006, 01:28 PM
In the past they have had some amazing photos. There is also a satellite imaging site: http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/
07-18-2006, 05:10 PM
KF thanks for your safety prayers!!! Fannie, the boys loved the show. I know they don't know the severity of forest fires!!! We were just at the fire site and Kudos to the fireheroes for working so diligently on putting the fire out!!! It didn't get very far and didn't jump the highway!!!
CT, Robie Creek is.....ok, if you take highway 21 (the only road from Boise to Lucky Peak you go past the high bridge and the turn off to the Spring Shore's marina) up like you were going to Id. City, then when you drop down into the canyon you take the Robie Creek turn off. It's half way between Boise and Id. City.
Praying for all those in EXCEEDINGLY dry states for the "no-brainers" to behave!!!
DW, one of the hugest fires in the Boise foot hills was started by a Police officer shooting tracers for practice!!!:faint OOPS!! My dad was still on the force that year (fire department that is). It was his last fire before he retired!!
09-14-2006, 05:10 PM
We got it, folks. Please pray for the people in the North Layton area. We have NASTY thunderstorms heading that way and a number of homes are threatened.
http://kutv.com/ Some real good video!
It was probably lightening caused. The storm coming in is flashing lightening big time and could start more. There's very little rain in this one. This weekend will bring some heavy rain but not until late tomorrow night.
Rush hour is going to be a MESS tonight. Highway 89 is closed up that way. That will mess up Hill AFB and I-15.
09-14-2006, 06:46 PM
Heartfelt thoughts and good karma coming your way, DogWoman!
09-14-2006, 06:48 PM
Just found out, a man had a wood pile. He thinks to himself, "Self, this could be a fire hazard."
So he decides to burn it....and the mountain....
09-14-2006, 07:30 PM
So sorry, I know how bad they can get.....a fire actually jumped I-40 across four lanes and turned and came back not far from my place. Longeye was a volunteer fireman at the time and he worked really hard trying to control it, as many others did! There were still several homes burned! It was someone throwing a cigarette out in the middle of a drout! :bhd
09-15-2006, 11:12 AM
Oh my gosh!!! Praying for lots of rain!!
09-15-2006, 12:28 PM
That nasty thunderstorm we had knocked it down. It kept raining up there! Definitely a God-thing!
It's out now.
09-15-2006, 05:54 PM
Glad to hear that the fire is out. :yp :yp
09-15-2006, 10:18 PM
Great news!:tban :tban
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