Period Correctness

[BayouBlessings]

I don't know if this has been discussed, but how do you know what is period correct as far as clothing is concerned? If there is a book, thread or web-site you can direct me to I would appreciate it.

http://www.getsmile.com/smilies/%5Ecad/cat14.gif Thankie! ~BB

[Kid Sopris]

Your Already there! The ladies will help!

[Catawba Kate]

Bayou, one of the easiest things to do is get on Amazon.com and search for Victorian clothing. A ton will pop up and you can review the books. Start off with the fashion plate books. The ones with all the pictures of the different eras of dress. Paper doll books are good too. I have many and the ones from Tom Tierny are period correct. I'm sure other ladies will help you out too.:)

[Lady Fleur]

Look at all the pics posted of plates under the sewing forum!
This book is a staple! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0486229904/qid=1140656346/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-2579928-0667061?s=books&v=glance&n=283155 And cheap!
I have a few tierney doll books for under 3$ if you want them! I also have a book on period traditions etc i would be happy to send you!! www.trulyvictorian.netfirms.com is a killer site for costumes, patterns, info and more!!

[Greeneyed Gypsy]

Ohhh ladies for shame! We need to have Hugh post a sticky with must see site for beginners...

My all time favorite "show me site." is the Demode database "Real womens clothes"
http://demode.tweedlebop.com/realvict/

Then there is the the New York Library digital picture catalog, you choose Browse, scroll down to costume then pick the decade of choice from the country of preference (the French really knew their fashion!)
http://digital.nypl.org/mmpco/

Whitckar auction house has some of the most stunning clothing I have come across on the net a few times a year they publish their digital catalog...
http://whitakerauction.com/

There are so many good books, but most of the ones I can call to mind are "how to" sew types.... Truly Victorian is THE pattern company of coiuce for the bustle era, and Heather should have a Master's in the subject! The Ladies on her board are helpful and encouraging. The "Comments" section Dresses made with our patterns and Public photo gallery are all wonderful sources of inspiration.

We have more great places to look....but these will keep you busy for awhile!!:tban

[BayouBlessings]

aaaaaaaaaaa, you girls are KILLING ME!! This stuff is wonderful!!! Again, no words to express my gratitude for your guidance, support and offerings.

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The above caption should read.... you are the WOMEN!

What a sweet spirit of the game!!

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~BayouB

[BayouBlessings]

Quick question....

Is the period we are to focus on 1800's? 1800 thru 1900?

[Four-Eyed Buck]

About 1865 to 1900........unless you go B-Western......Buck:cgun

[Mark Flint]

Think Victorian Era!

[Fannie Kikinshoot]

BB, the first book that Fleur posted a link to is lovingly referred to by the Belles as "The Victorian Bible". I have been inspired by that book more than any!!! I remember when I made the aqua and tan dress, I was talking to Miss Tabitha and said, "Do you have Harper's Bazaar 1867-1898?" She replied, "You mean the bible, I have it right here." I then said turn to page 122." She knew exactly which dress I was referring to before she ever opened the book!! Here is page 122:

[Fannie Kikinshoot]

Here is my interpretation of page 122:

[Fannie Kikinshoot]

And in true Alley Cat fashion, the back view:

[BayouBlessings]

http://www.boomspeed.com/carolrobert/thumb.gif The book has been ordered!! (and a few more too!!) ooooouuuuu, can't wait!! Guns, clothes, get-aways with my honey! What could be better?!? ...... Oh yeah, shooting the guns!!!! hahahaha!

FANNIE!!!! GORGEOUS!!!! BEAUTIMOUS!!!

Time for this cowgal to hit the hay!
See y'all in the morn.

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[Fannie Kikinshoot]

One more tip tonight...if you want to be period correct Victorian, zippers are a no no. :nuhnuh

[Lady Fleur]

LOL Fannie I was going to call it the bible but you beat me to it!
I have several dresses from it... It is such a good refrence in moving thru the eras!! I have some pics ... from all over! and keep adding what i see here and there so here are some of the current repros and the old ones just look into the files!!
http://photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos
Oh and some items are for sale or sold.... And many can and will be remade!!!

[Greeneyed Gypsy]

getting the member sigh in screen again Fluer

[Lady Fleur]

Another person told me ? Did you click directly on a pic?
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/fleurdelisdesynes@sbcglobal.net/album?.dir=dbde&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos
here are some public files from the list!
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/fleurdelisdesynes@sbcglobal.net/album?.dir=mail&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/fleurdelisdesynes@sbcglobal.net/album?.dir=21e3&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/fleurdelisdesynes@sbcglobal.net/album?.dir=28b9&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/fleurdelisdesynes@sbcglobal.net/album?.dir=45bb&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

Hope they let you in??

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/fleurdelisdesynes@sbcglobal.net/album?.dir=d0ed&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/fleurdelisdesynes@sbcglobal.net/album?.dir=6a77&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

[Lady Fleur]

GO OUT AND SNAP THIS UP THE GOWNS ARE STELLAR!http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E0ODZE/qid=1140726151/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-0095418-3065478?s=dvd&v=glance&n=130
There are pre-orders for april at a killer price!! THIS IS A MUST HAVE! Yeas i am squeeling LOUD!

[Lady Fleur]

I forgot to mention...One of the charactors has a sheer dress like the red and white stripe we love!!

[Greeneyed Gypsy]

OMG OMG OMG>.....OK we all NEED this Movie.... folks I mean NEED in a big way as in...you ALL have 10$ laying around somewhere...clean out the couch the car and all your blue jean pockest...this like Daniel Deronda on Cafine....MUST MUST MUST MUST

HAVE

American "new" money women who traval to England to snar a hubbie with an old respectible title and all that befalles them in the process...
Warm up your digital stop pause dvd players BIG TIME....wondrous bustles...

An I making a dent here!?!?!?
ORDER NOW I TELL YOU!

Greeneyed ( what don't make must statements often, so listen carefully!:kiss) Gypsy

[Lady Fleur]

GG do you have it or do you wish to borrow mine? LOL Really! I have a huge collection of period movies!

[Kitty Phann]

Oh GG, I so agree with you on that movie... I love it. Good price to as I paid more for mine. :(

Looking for more good period movies...any recommandations?

[Greeneyed Gypsy]

Daniel Deronda, Surprisingly Dracula, Maverick...check out all the great backround ladies!

[Lady Fleur]

I have a bunch of vhs ... if anyone wants. I have those....
Look at the amazon site on the as to there referals of what other people purchased too. Some good ones seen there!

[Fannie Kikinshoot]

Oh Maverick is a fabulous movie. That is where the inspiration for my blue dress for the VERY FIRST SASS CONVENTION came from...I won 4th place. I love that movie and as a "cherry on top" you get to watch Mel Gibson, too! :tban :ban evilb:
http://www.carolinabelles.net/fannie/misc2/YesteryearBall.jpg

[Clancy]

And to think back in the 1980's we were all into shoulder pads, see what age and fashions does to you, they fall from our shouldres and we need to use them as breast enhancers..........

[Iron Ed]

...I love that movie and as a "cherry on top" you get to watch Mel Gibson, too!...
Mel who?? ;)

[Four-Eyed Buck]

Clancy, does that mean you've done away with your power suits????......Buck:sailor :lool :bow

[Coffee Em]

And to think back in the 1980's we were all into shoulder pads, see what age and fashions does to you, they fall from our shouldres and we need to use them as breast enhancers..........

It's all the fault of that stupid GRAVITY! Can we get that turned down a little?

Cheers,
Coffee Em

[Four-Eyed Buck]

Don't get me started on that gravity stuff, Em. It's managed to pack a bunch of stuff around my middle that wasn't there when I was younger...........Buck:lool :noe

[Kitty Phann]

Well, we could try walking on our hands then maybe it would go in the other directions. lol

[Ima Schofield]

Isn't that why we wear the corsets and BIG bustles??:33

[BayouBlessings]

I went to Amazon and have placed a bunch of DVDs and books in my "Wish List." Malone already has a great start on western DVDs (and some videos). I will need to wait to purchase any of them until my income catches up with my spending!! ;)

http://www.getsmile.com/smilies/%5Ecad/persian14.gif ~BB

[Four-Eyed Buck]

That's always the problem, ain't it? Why couldn't we have been born rich instead of beautiful/handsome.........Buck:rofl :lool :re :fm

[Iron Ed]

Was just wondering if there's something like that Harper's book for period correct men's outfits...?

[BayouBlessings]

Iron Ed, I ordered some cowboy books too. Here are some link to books on Amazon:

Cowboy Clothing (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006CO8M8/qid=1141048923/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/104-9071930-9443946?s=books&v=glance&n=283155)

Western Words (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0781805902/ref=pd_sr_ec_ir_b/104-9071930-9443946?n=283155)

I See By Your Outfit: Historic Cowboy Gear (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0931271339/qid=1141049107/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/104-9071930-9443946?s=books&v=glance&n=283155)

Cowboy Trappings of the Old West (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0939549131/sr=8-1/qid=1141049277/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-9071930-9443946?%5Fencoding=UTF8)

This will give you a start!! Have fun!!

~BayouB

[Lady Fleur]

Great info i looked at the last one. AND saw period collars! I have a few (new wearable ones) If anyone can use them?

[BayouBlessings]

My hubby has been holdin' out on me!! He was straightening out his DVD collection and the top of his dresser and had set this big book on the bed as he organized. This BIG book is "The Peacemakers: Arms and Adventure in the American West." I said, "WHAT is this?!" I opened it and could not believe the fantastic pictures in this book. He then told me that it had a companion to it. I said, "WHAT?!? You been holdin' out on me!!" He then gave me "Steel Canvas: The Art of American Arms," another beautifully illustrated book!!

If you are interested in either of these books:

The Peacemakers (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0679404945/ref=sib_rdr_dp/104-9071930-9443946?%5Fencoding=UTF8&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER&no=283155&st=books&n=283155)

Steel Canvas (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0679406735/qid=1141247367/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/104-9071930-9443946?s=books&v=glance&n=283155)
Books.... I love books!!! http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/j0/leseratte.gif

~BayouB

[Drusilla]

Hi BB,
You have hit the target dead center by joining this site! And books, books, books are our finest references, beware! They are addicting! Almost on the level of chocolate, but we won't go there cause if we do too much we can't fit into our dresses/pants and then we have to order new gun belts! Wait till the FABRIC addiction hits, then you know yer in for the duration.:eek: Then come the patterns and your done for.....especially if you sew...:sk
I now have over 120 books on Victorian fashion and sewing, these don't include the etiquette, life style, architecture (I WILL have a Victorian house some day), morals and history books I collect. For me this is no longer an addiction but an obsession......a good obsession giving where I live and work.
People, tourists and reenactors sometimes ask the most interesting questions.
You are very fortunate to have the internet for this, when I started, there was no internet, hehe, hence all the books. Did I mention my Mom is a professional researcher and librarian?:jp :jp
You should see HER library!

[Iron Ed]

I was looking at the Barnes and Noble website and discovered a paperback version of the "Victorian Fashions and Costumes from Harper's Bazaar, 1867-1898 (pictorial archive)" is on sale for $3.99.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?WRD=Victorian+Fashion&z=y&cds2Pid=9481

(I would buy a copy, but I'm a'skeered to use my credit card over the innernet. :re)

[Clancy]

There is another interesting book there, which looks like it might be a good read.

Courtesans: Money, Sex and Fame in the Nineteenth Century

[BayouBlessings]

I've received all my books.... purdy, purdy fancy wears! The Harper Bazaar book is something to behold!! :) 'cept one thing.... my figure does not look like that! eensie, weensie waist lines! :D

The "Cowboys and The Trappings of the Old West" is really excellent! I highly recommend this book for old west information and wonderful pictures!

~BB

[Nellie Blue]

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